rust treatment

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Hello All,
What have you all done to treat rust on the underbelly of your car? I've read about POR but it's expensive and hard to apply properly. How about Eastwood rust "encapsulation" spray - does it really work? Other options?
Thanks in advance for any/all tips.
Jim

[Ewing [e-mail] [vSAAB]]

Jim,

I haven't found POR difficult to use especially on "unseen" areas. Yeah, better prep is good and takes time but the stuff just brushes on.

Best way is to chemically remove the rust then prime with an epoxy primer but it takes a LOT more time and work.

Lester

Post by jimpascale-***@public.gmane.org [vSAAB]
Hello All,
What have you all done to treat rust on the underbelly of your car? I've read about POR but it's expensive and hard to apply properly. How about Eastwood rust "encapsulation" spray - does it really work? Other options?
Thanks in advance for any/all tips.
Jim

[Stefan Vapaa turbo-ooAQcTXgxthWk0Htik3J/[e-mail] [vSAAB]]

The thing with POR15 is that a small can goes a very long way. It is quite
thin. So the cost evens out over time or space (area).
Applying it is pretty much the same as any other paint. It works better
than anything I've ever used, by a fair margin.

Take great care when re-sealing it. Clean the can sealing surface very well
because if you don't, the next time you try to open it will be an adventure.

Post by Ewing oldsaabguy-***@public.gmane.org [vSAAB]
Jim,
I haven't found POR difficult to use especially on "unseen" areas. Yeah,
better prep is good and takes time but the stuff just brushes on.
Best way is to chemically remove the rust then prime with an epoxy primer
but it takes a LOT more time and work.
Lester
Hello All,
What have you all done to treat rust on the underbelly of your car? I've
read about POR but it's expensive and hard to apply properly. How about
Eastwood rust "encapsulation" spray - does it really work? Other options?
Thanks in advance for any/all tips.
Jim

[Ewing [e-mail] [vSAAB]]

Common trick is to put Saran wrap or something similar between top and can to get it open.

Lester

The thing with POR15 is that a small can goes a very long way. It is quite thin. So the cost evens out over time or space (area).
Applying it is pretty much the same as any other paint. It works better than anything I've ever used, by a fair margin.
Take great care when re-sealing it. Clean the can sealing surface very well because if you don't, the next time you try to open it will be an adventure.
Jim,
I haven't found POR difficult to use especially on "unseen" areas. Yeah, better prep is good and takes time but the stuff just brushes on.
Best way is to chemically remove the rust then prime with an epoxy primer but it takes a LOT more time and work.
Lester

Post by jimpascale-***@public.gmane.org [vSAAB]
Hello All,
What have you all done to treat rust on the underbelly of your car? I've read about POR but it's expensive and hard to apply properly. How about Eastwood rust "encapsulation" spray - does it really work? Other options?
Thanks in advance for any/all tips.
Jim

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[eric.carter-ae/4rV3yS3tWk0Htik3J/[e-mail] [vSAAB]]

I'm not a big POR fan.

First, I don't like having to buy several separate products which seem to be overpriced.
Second, I don't like the idea of having to wash off the area with water.
Third, it's very difficult to topcoat. You must use their special priming products for it to stick. I did a 96 floor with it and wanted to spray on a topcoat that was the color of the car. Just normal single-stage paint. It didn't stick at all and I found out that I would have to add an additional POR priming product.
Fourth, I've done all the steps using all their products just as they recommended and didn't think it lasted all that long.


A few years ago, I tried a product called Rust Bullet. You can find it on the web. It calls for two coats, but no pre-treatment steps or any of that. And it lasted longer than the POR. Plus you can topcoat it directly. I just checked their website and I see they now sell a pretreatment product as well as a glossy topcoat product. I don't think you have to go that route though. About $50 a quart for the regular Rust Bullet.


eric in vermont

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I have used a rust converter called Ospho from my local hardware. Simply wire brush all the loose rust away and apply a liberal coat and let soak in. Turns the rust black and provides a metal etch priming. You might need a second coat.


I have used this with excellent results on cars, snowblowers, iron railings, any metal that rusts. I have not found any paint or primer that does not adhere to it and it provides a solid base for Bondo and other body fillers.


Simple, easy and not expensive.


Dave in Gurnee

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Ospho is the best of it's kind I have ever used. Period.

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I've used POR-15 on at least 3 VSAABs in the past 12 years, but I never kept any of the cars past a 2-3 year period after application, so I don't have long-term results. But ........ it seemed easy to use, and did the job I expected... so I was happy in the short-term, at least.

I guess I could survey the current owners to see what they observe in the future.

Tom, aka ElkMtnMan

The thing with POR15 is that a small can goes a very long way. It is quite thin. So the cost evens out over time or space (area).
Applying it is pretty much the same as any other paint. It works better than anything I've ever used, by a fair margin.
Take great care when re-sealing it. Clean the can sealing surface very well because if you don't, the next time you try to open it will be an adventure.
Jim,
I haven't found POR difficult to use especially on "unseen" areas. Yeah, better prep is good and takes time but the stuff just brushes on.
Best way is to chemically remove the rust then prime with an epoxy primer but it takes a LOT more time and work.
Lester

Post by jimpascale-***@public.gmane.org [vSAAB]
Hello All,
What have you all done to treat rust on the underbelly of your car? I've read about POR but it's expensive and hard to apply properly. How about Eastwood rust "encapsulation" spray - does it really work? Other options?
Thanks in advance for any/all tips.
Jim

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At last, I was able to get my 63 wagon from storage after purchasing it.  It has 42k original miles and I am third owner.  It has no rust and an all original interior.  I will be taking it to the Saab picnic this summer.  The interior is amazing with only some stitching in seats broken.  Dean Gordon helped me transport it in his custom vintage Saab trailer.  It runs and drives beautiful and Mike St Pierre is schedule to drive it if he comes to the picnic....you up to it Mike? 
Brad

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That thing is beautiful, please bring it to the SOC14 :-)

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At last, I was able to get my 63 wagon from storage after purchasing it.
It has 42k original miles and I am third owner. It has no rust and an all
original interior. I will be taking it to the Saab picnic this summer. The
interior is amazing with only some stitching in seats broken. Dean Gordon
helped me transport it in his custom vintage Saab trailer. It runs and
drives beautiful and Mike St Pierre is schedule to drive it if he comes to
the picnic....you up to it Mike?
Brad
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I've used POR-15 on at least 3 VSAABs in the past 12 years, but I never
kept any of the cars past a 2-3 year period after application, so I don't
have long-term results. But ........ it seemed easy to use, and did the job
I expected... so I was happy in the short-term, at least.
I guess I could survey the current owners to see what they observe in the future.

['Mike St.Pierre' [e-mail] [vSAAB]]

Definitely, Brad !
Mike

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That thing is beautiful, please bring it to the SOC14 :-)
Phil
At last, I was able to get my 63 wagon from storage after
purchasing it. It has 42k original miles and I am third owner. It
has no rust and an all original interior. I will be taking it to
the Saab picnic this summer. The interior is amazing with only
some stitching in seats broken. Dean Gordon helped me transport it
in his custom vintage Saab trailer. It runs and drives beautiful
and Mike St Pierre is schedule to drive it if he comes to the
picnic....you up to it Mike?
Brad
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I've used POR-15 on at least 3 VSAABs in the past 12 years, but I
never kept any of the cars past a 2-3 year period after
application, so I don't have long-term results. But ........ it
seemed easy to use, and did the job I expected... so I was happy
in the short-term, at least.
I guess I could survey the current owners to see what they observe in the future.

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Beautiful bull nose wagon, Brad. Congratulations! Chas

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and store it in the refrigerator .. it say so on the can !

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Common trick is to put Saran wrap or something similar between top and can to get it open.
Lester
On May 29, 2014, at 8:25 AM, "Stefan Vapaa turbo-ooAQcTXgxthWk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org [vSAAB]" <vSAAB-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

The thing with POR15 is that a small can goes a very long way. It is quite thin. So the cost evens out over time or space (area).Applying it is pretty much the same as any other paint. It works better than anything I've ever used, by a fair margin. Take great care when re-sealing it. Clean the can sealing surface very well because if you don't, the next time you try to open it will be an adventure.

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Ewing oldsaabguy-***@public.gmane.org [vSAAB] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Jim, I haven't found POR difficult to use especially on "unseen" areas. Yeah, better prep is good and takes time but the stuff just brushes on. Best way is to chemically remove the rust then prime with an epoxy primer but it takes a LOT more time and work. Lester
On May 29, 2014, at 7:26 AM, "jimpascale-***@public.gmane.org [vSAAB]" <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hello All,
What have you all done to treat rust on the underbelly of your car? I've read about POR but it's expensive and hard to apply properly. How about Eastwood rust "encapsulation" spray - does it really work? Other options?Thanks in advance for any/all tips.Jim







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http://photos.at-speed.com
http://www.formulasaab.com
VSCCA comp #57
VRG comp #97





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